I gotta quit looking at these

[DavidKFla]

You ain't getting that Raptor for msrp. That will surely be jacked up and there are people paying +/- 100k for those.

Call them. I don't want it. Weather is beautiful in Naples. I was down there yesterday.

 

[DavidKFla]

 

[Speedy!]

My buddy just took delivery of his Raptor. Is already talking about sending it to auction for $125K.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

My buddy just took delivery of his Raptor. Is already talking about sending it to auction for $125K.

All the ones around here are at $100k or more.

These dealers post the "msrp" price and of course when you get there they have the adm sticker on the window. I hate when they play that game. If you're gonna jack up the price, then display the price you really want.

 

[DavidKFla]

All the ones around here are at $100k or more.

These dealers post the "msrp" price and of course when you get there they have the adm sticker on the window. I hate when they play that game. If you're gonna jack up the price, then display the price you really want.

It's becoming less and less. Many dealers now have unsold inventory that they need to move.

Regular Hellcat Chargers you can buy again for msrp as well Scat Packs.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

The one I really want is the Everglades model. It was available in a cool desert tan color for 2022, but they dropped that color for 2023, which makes no sense to me. The Everglades is the only one that comes stock with the snorkle, and winch stock. It's got a few other things too.

 

[DavidKFla]

The one I really want is the Everglades model. It was available in a cool desert tan color for 2022, but they dropped that color for 2023, which makes no sense to me. The Everglades is the only one that comes stock with the snorkle, and winch stock. It's got a few other things too.

What about gator and python deterrents?

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

What about gator and python deterrents?

I've already got those accessories

 

[DavidKFla]

I've already got those accessories

Good luck on that trim package. I only found 2 used across the country. $76-$78K. They both have 2.3 turbo motors.

 

[Smitty]

It's here!! It's here!! My new Bronco!!

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Sorry I got tired of waiting for a real one to show up

So here's the real story....

I have one dealer that shows a white Bronco that I'm interested in on their website, but the mgr tells me that haven't received it yet (still in transit) but their site says it's on the lot. They will give it to me $500 under sticker when it shows. It's a 2022 model.

I have another dealer with a blue 2022 that has reduced their adm from $15k over sticker down to $3500 over sticker. They think that's a great deal, and I have told them no less than 5 times I'm not paying an adm.

I have 1 more dealer that will do sticker, but they don't want to deal with the out of state paperwork. I don't know why that's a big ordeal to them, but it is, so that one is probably out. It's ok because it was 3rd on the list of ones I'm interested in.

I bet if they weren’t selling vehicles out of state paperwork would be nooooo problemo.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Well that means they should take off even more money and be willing to deal, afterall, I'm trying to help relieve their pain and misery.

That is very kind of you, but keep in mind that not only do they have to deal with Furds, but also the kind of people that want to buy them.

(Obviously I had CC in mind)

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

I bet if they weren’t selling vehicles out of state paperwork would be nooooo problemo.

Yeah, i found it odd that they were talking about the financing restrictions, etc. It all seemed a bit far flung.

 

[DavidKFla]

Yeah, i found it odd that they were talking about the financing restrictions, etc. It all seemed a bit far flung.

If it has a special finance program it may only apply to certain zones.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

Good luck on that trim package. I only found 2 used across the country. $76-$78K. They both have 2.3 turbo motors.

Yeah, that trim package sold out quickly, and I don't think a lot of them were ordered right away. I did find a dealer in California that had 2 of them (since sold) and they wanted $90k for them on a sticker price of $57k. The guy asked me if it would help if they came down to $80k, I said yeah, it'll help you but it doesn't do a damn thing for me.

That package only comes with the 2.3 engine becasue they say that the weight of the winch, bracketry, etc offsets the weight difference of not getting the 2.7 V6

 

[Jimmy N.]

I did find a dealer in California that had 2 of them (since sold) and they wanted $90k for them on a sticker price of $57k.

That's only the beginning. I found a really nicely priced Challenger in CA, and later an Audi at a good price.

Learned from the attempt at buying the Challenger that not only did one of the rebates only apply to CA residents, but the real kicker was that it would've had to be registered there.

By the time you pay the CA registration fees, you might as well pay a 5K ADM at a more local dealer. Also, you'd have to come up with a fake address in CA to make it happen in the first place.

Having friends in CA, including a good insurance guy, I could've done it...but why??

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

That's only the beginning. I found a really nicely priced Challenger in CA, and later an Audi at a good price.

Learned from the attempt at buying the Challenger that not only did one of the rebates only apply to CA residents, but the real kicker was that it would've had to be registered there.

By the time you pay the CA registration fees, you might as well pay a 5K ADM at a more local dealer. Also, you'd have to come up with a fake address in CA to make it happen in the first place.

Having friends in CA, including a good insurance guy, I could've done it...but why??

Oh yeah.....I've been through that with them before, and the answer I got was if I drove it off the lot or it hit the streets in Calif after my purchase, then it had to be registered in Calif first, plus pay all of those fancy fees they love to charge. I told the guy that since they offer delivery, I wanted it delivered to the Nevada state line and I would take possession there. There was silence for a few seconds as he didn't know what to say.

 

[HWDan]

It's here!! It's here!! My new Bronco!!

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Sorry I got tired of waiting for a real one to show up

So here's the real story....

I have one dealer that shows a white Bronco that I'm interested in on their website, but the mgr tells me that haven't received it yet (still in transit) but their site says it's on the lot. They will give it to me $500 under sticker when it shows. It's a 2022 model.

I have another dealer with a blue 2022 that has reduced their adm from $15k over sticker down to $3500 over sticker. They think that's a great deal, and I have told them no less than 5 times I'm not paying an adm.

I have 1 more dealer that will do sticker, but they don't want to deal with the out of state paperwork. I don't know why that's a big ordeal to them, but it is, so that one is probably out. It's ok because it was 3rd on the list of ones I'm interested in.

In that case, I have one on order too!

and it's a 2 door ...

 

[Jimmy N.]

Oh yeah.....I've been through that with them before, and the answer I got was if I drove it off the lot or it hit the streets in Calif after my purchase, then it had to be registered in Calif first, plus pay all of those fancy fees they love to charge. I told the guy that since they offer delivery, I wanted it delivered to the Nevada state line and I would take possession there. There was silence for a few seconds as he didn't know what to say.

In my case they knew I'd trailer it, but that didn't seem to matter.

Also ran into issues when trying to get an Audi RS6 from Arizona that my girlfriend had ordered. That dealer had a short list of approved shippers (brokers, actually) that could pick the car up.

Reliable Carriers wasn't on that list, which is who she prefers using if I can't go get vehicles.

A friend in Kentucky offered to let me use his company name, etc., but while it was doable we decided to let them take care of the transport and hope for the best.

The car did arrive in good shape, and correctly tied down, but...on an open trailer and with a driver that didn't speak a word of English. Yes, our place is easy to find, if you know how. GPSs tend to be up to 10 miles off.

 

[Ronin]

Until recently the only off-road vehicle that fits my needs/environment (high speed desert mostly) is the Jeep Gladiator Mojave. We entertained a Raptor but the "jeep" trails we use would destroy one; literally. Their track is WAY too wide and while I don't mind "Arizona Pin-stripping" on my body panels...I do mind keep them attached and prefer NOT to have them ripped off. With that being said after owning several JK/JL Wranglers we'd swap out our Gladiator Mojave for a Wrangler Mojave in a heartbeat. There's been rumors for the past several years that a Wrangler Mojave was very likely going to be offered, but (of course) that has NOT come to fruition nor is likely to.

I looked HARD recently at a 4-door Sasquatch that was loaded and liked nearly everything I say, save the rear "cargo" compartment which is laughably and pathetically lacking. Folding/removing the rear seat row is of course an option and that'd work fine for us as it's typically just my wife and I anyway.

That leaves me looking at both the WildTrak and Bronco Raptor. A WildTrak equipped the way I'd like would MSRP right at $60K, which is almost $4K lower than the sticker on my Mojave, which was completely loaded (and I certainly didn't pay sticker for). The Raptor, which is obviously significantly more equipped/capable, particularly for the environment I'd use it in, would be about $15K higher, at $75K MSRP.

My concerns about IFS aside and my strong interest in NOT beta testing for Ford (or any other manufacturer for that matter), there's NO fucking way I'd pay above MSRP for either of those vehicles, period. Fast forward a year or two when things likely settle down and I could VERY easily see parting ways with my Mojave for either a WildTrak or Bronco Raptor. I may be a Jeeper but I'm an off-road enthusiast first and brand loyal, second. If Ford/Bronco can do it better than Jeep in the application I need it for, that's the direction I'll go in. Same way I started out with Polaris RZRs and moved on to Can-Am X3s, I want the best possible ride for the environment I'm using it in...

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

........, I want the best possible ride for the environment I'm using it in...

There's a hooker joke in there somewhere......I just know there is........