G force axles is this a problem????

[Linda's Hell Cat]

G-Force has had a great product. I have posted before that on my daughter SRT8 2010 Challenger my husband had the G-force axles and driveshaft installed by HHP back 2014. There is a Life Time warranty and we have not had to use it. As I have posted before I think their product is good for her level of racing with a D1 Procharger build racing 11.50's or 11.00s.
The problem with G-force as competitive as they might want to be, there are not enough Hemi racers who are into the 8's running their stuff.

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

Racing 8's is a Race Car build and needs strength and safety.Our Hemi's carry more weight and have a lot of power to put down on the ground. The back end always needs to be built for strength and then go forward!



My Husband as some of you may know was Top Cat. He was heading for the 8's and knew from modifying my prior SRT8 2010 Challenger and had one of the 1st DSS 9 inch rears installed was needed. But guess what the 1400 axles broke so many times Frank gave us a set to keep on the shelf.

I Think DSS continues to step up to the plate from racers giving them info to make a better product!

But If G-force does have this product.
G-Force does have this!
https://highhorseperformance.com/gf...charger-300c-5-7-6-1-6-2-6-4l-mop10906a-alum/

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

And BTW Cole ( i think some of you will remember him) once posted a warning how he installed G-force axles and did install them backwards.
He was irritated about the couple of hours more to redo his work.

 

[DavidKFla]

Racing 8's is a Race Car build and needs strength and safety.Our Hemi's carry more weight and have a lot of power to put down on the ground. The back end always needs to be built for strength and then go forward!



My Husband as some of you may know was Top Cat. He was heading for the 8's and knew from modifying my prior SRT8 2010 Challenger and had one of the 1st DSS 9 inch rears installed was needed. But guess what the 1400 axles broke so many times Frank gave us a set to keep on the shelf.

I Think DSS continues to step up to the plate from racers giving them info to make a better product!

But If G-force does have this product.
G-Force does have this!
https://highhorseperformance.com/gf...charger-300c-5-7-6-1-6-2-6-4l-mop10906a-alum/

I can only dream...

 

[16GoManGoHC2]

It wouldn't be hard or expensive to throw them on a hardness tester.

He hit them with a file on the spines, they appear to be case hardened. They definitely look disappointing, I have a set myself. I would be trying to new DSS ones next myself. I heard a lot of good things about them. I know a guy that was in the test process for them he’s still beating on them. Only problem with them is the CV is not replaceable on its own and you have to replace the whole hub but what’s good of a replaceable CV if the spine snaps off right? The spine ends are $300 an end to replace them. The bolts always seem to come loose as well. The new DSS look just like stock hellcat axles of old.

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

The driveshaft shop also has improved on the https://highhorseperformance.com/th...t-challenger-srt-srt-hellcat-6-2-6-4l-manual/


When purchasing this kit then you would also have to decide, if you want a carbon fiber driveshaft or an Aluminum one. John had chosen Carbon fiber for weight savings and
I spoke to Frank a while ago ( he is retired now) about the CF and he said it is actually stronger than the AL vs most people thinking it is not. He said they apply an extra coating on the outside of CF for protection.

From when John had the 1st DSS 9 inch kit installed for his Top cat ......... this new version, I know he would be installing the new kit for strength. I think John would not gone past this like he did with his Mopar Drag Pak. On his DP he had it Back halved for the wider drag wheels. It was done beautifully. It already had the solid rear axel.
I know he would have continued to build his DragPak vs Top Cat....but then again knowing him he would have been building both!

Linda

 

[jonx96]

The driveshaft shop also has improved on the https://highhorseperformance.com/th...t-challenger-srt-srt-hellcat-6-2-6-4l-manual/
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When purchasing this kit then you would also have to decide, if you want a carbon fiber driveshaft or an Aluminum one. John had chosen Carbon fiber for weight savings and
I spoke to Frank a while ago ( he is retired now) about the CF and he said it is actually stronger than the AL vs most people thinking it is not. He said they apply an extra coating on the outside of CF for protection.

From when John had the 1st DSS 9 inch kit installed for his Top cat ......... this new version, I know he would be installing the new kit for strength. I think John would not gone past this like he did with his Mopar Drag Pak. On his DP he had it Back halved for the wider drag wheels. It was done beautifully. It already had the solid rear axel.
I know he would have continued to build his DragPak vs Top Cat....but then again knowing him he would have been building both!

Linda

My carbon fiber shaft showed up two days ago. If it does break it won’t break the car

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

My carbon fiber shaft showed up two days ago. If it does break it won’t break the car

That's Right!

I always call the Diff brace the most Peace of mind part to be installed on my Hellcat! ( and I said it first

In 2015 the Diff broke on "Top Cat" which took out the CF Driveshaft!

 

[Hatermkr]

The driveshaft shop also has improved on the https://highhorseperformance.com/th...t-challenger-srt-srt-hellcat-6-2-6-4l-manual/
View attachment 95853

When purchasing this kit then you would also have to decide, if you want a carbon fiber driveshaft or an Aluminum one. John had chosen Carbon fiber for weight savings and
I spoke to Frank a while ago ( he is retired now) about the CF and he said it is actually stronger than the AL vs most people thinking it is not. He said they apply an extra coating on the outside of CF for protection.

From when John had the 1st DSS 9 inch kit installed for his Top cat ......... this new version, I know he would be installing the new kit for strength. I think John would not gone past this like he did with his Mopar Drag Pak. On his DP he had it Back halved for the wider drag wheels. It was done beautifully. It already had the solid rear axel.
I know he would have continued to build his DragPak vs Top Cat....but then again knowing him he would have been building both!

Linda

How does this fix breaking at the hub bearings

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

How does this fix breaking at the hub bearings

I don't know, but I do know there is always a lot of Power and torque that has to get to the ground from our Modern Hemi's

Running 8's is huge for Power and torque. I don't know everything about how your Hellcat is built.

I just know John had always built the back for strength. In 2010 he had one of the first 9 inch rears with a Detroit locker installed to my KB 3.6 sitting on a top of an Al 440 engine. Race and Break really sucked. Parts were not available like they are today.

You are better off trying to get knowledge from G-Force and maybe they will work with you. If they are competitive they should want to.

 

[Hatermkr]

I don't know, but I do know there is always a lot of Power and torque that has to get to the ground from our Modern Hemi's

Running 8's is huge for Power and torque. I don't know everything about how your Hellcat is built.

I just know John had always built the back for strength. In 2010 he had one of the first 9 inch rears with a Detroit locker installed to my KB 3.6 sitting on a top of an Al 440 engine. Race and Break really sucked. Parts were not available like they are today.

You are better off trying to get knowledge from G-Force and maybe they will work with you. If they are competitive they should want to.

You don’t need a nine inch. The factory ring and pinion is a nine inch. And spending 10,000 for a nine inch puts the stress at the hubs and they break.

long and short G force does not stand behind their product period. When you have a problem they blame everything but their product. Look at splines clean break.

you can offer a lifetime warranty on anything don’t mean you honor it

 

[vortecd]

You don’t need a nine inch. The factory ring and pinion is a nine inch. And spending 10,000 for a nine inch puts the stress at the hubs and they break.

long and short G force does not stand behind their product period. When you have a problem they blame everything but their product. Look at splines clean break.

you can offer a lifetime warranty on anything don’t mean you honor it

When a company doesn't stand behind their product it is best to let EVERYONE know. I have bought other brands because of it

 

[jgilj]

My plan was outlaw axles but I’m with @vortecd if a company will not stand behind their products then I’m not taking the chance. Now looking for the best best !

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

You don’t need a nine inch. The factory ring and pinion is a nine inch. And spending 10,000 for a nine inch puts the stress at the hubs and they break.

long and short G force does not stand behind their product period. When you have a problem they blame everything but their product. Look at splines clean break.

you can offer a lifetime warranty on anything don’t mean you honor it

Did you buy direct?


Ok here is the Top of the line combo of some friends who race their 8 sec Hellcats.
https://highhorseperformance.com/billet-hellcat-differential/
And the DSS Axles and halfshaft 😎

 

[Hatermkr]

Did you buy direct?


Ok here is the Top of the line combo of some friends who race their 8 sec Hellcats.
https://highhorseperformance.com/billet-hellcat-differential/
And the DSS Axles and halfshaft 😎

I have that already. I have actually fixed a couple for aj.

and mine has the new wave track carrier

 

[RGPIII]

Did you buy direct?


Ok here is the Top of the line combo of some friends who race their 8 sec Hellcats.
https://highhorseperformance.com/billet-hellcat-differential/
And the DSS Axles and halfshaft 😎

That rear may be my next purchase. I like that I get to keep my axles and braces. Plus the added piece of mind that my diff isn’t going to explode on any given launch.
@Hatermkr how do you like the rear?

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

I have that already. I have actually fixed a couple for aj.

and mine has the new wave track carrier

What have you fixed on them?
Could the one you have installed possibly needed fixing?
The breaking maybe could have happened from the Diff moving around.

 

[oilburner]

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if you had to take the diff apart to tap the stub out of the carrier because the circlip was still in place then there`s no way they can say they were installed wrong.
sounds like pure bullshit on their part. measure the distance from grove out an if its the same length as the broken stub ..........that`s your proof they were in properly.

 

[Hatermkr]

What have you fixed on them?
Could the one you have installed possibly needed fixing?
The breaking maybe could have happened from the Diff moving around.

Mine already was fixed wirh the new wave track carrier.
The fix I did was sent them up correctly so they don’t make noise

 

[Hatermkr]

That rear may be my next purchase. I like that I get to keep my axles and braces. Plus the added piece of mind that my diff isn’t going to explode on any given launch.
@Hatermkr how do you like the rear?

It’s an after market case with stock internals. I would put a better carrier in the stock clutch’s suck