Fuel Pump/Starter issues

[Nfamous_707]

Evening Gents,

So, this might come off as a rant but i need some advice here.. maybe some of are dealing with similar issues.

I have a 2018 hellcat charger that i bought brand new Dec 2018 from Dodge, (issue #1) from the start its had an intermittent starting issue. Basically, it would crank but fail to start on the first attempt but always start without issue on the second attempt, at the beginning this was happening maybe once every 3-4mo.. but became more frequent so I finally brought it up to a service adviser he said it sounded like the common issue with the secondary fuel pumps. They kept my car for 4 days, and of course they couldn't replicate the issue and there were no saved codes. They told me basically they need a code or for the issue to happen while the car is in their care, otherwise i have to wait for the pump to fail completely. In addition to all of this, my car has once or twice stalled out while in reverse... no clue what that's about but apparently its all liked to the secondary pump. (?)

Issue #2
in addition to the auxiliary pump issues, my starter also seems to be sticking at times..but again its intermittent and there are no saved codes...i cant get any of this to happen while its at the dealer.. they wont fuckn fix it...WHAT DO I DO? common sense answer, drop the almost 2k that i was quoted and pay out of pocket and fix it...WELL i have a huge issue with that when its still under warranty otherwise i would. My car is currently at 22k..the warranty period is just about up.. i average about 15k/year driving to shows and just in general.

ANY HELP OR SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED..

IG: Nfamous_707

 

[Av8ing1]

Sounds worse than the slow start issue some have experienced. See
https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/charger-hellcat-slow-engine-start-when-heat-soaked.3629/
I'd be interested in hearing more about the "common issue with the secondary fuel pumps." I wonder if the tech had any reason to suspect this as an issue or just a guess?

 

[Hellcatcfp]

Beautiful cat and welcome. I have an 18 Charger Hellcat (February 2018 build) and have luckily not had any issues. My suggestion would be to throw a new battery at it to rule that out. Sorry to hear. Please keep this thread updated...again nice Hellcat.

 

[Nfamous_707]

Sounds worse than the slow start issue some have experienced. See
https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/charger-hellcat-slow-engine-start-when-heat-soaked.3629/
I'd be interested in hearing more about the "common issue with the secondary fuel pumps." I wonder if the tech had any reason to suspect this as an issue or just a guess?

he said hes had hellcats arrive with failed auxiliary pumps..ive also gone through two half shafts..

 

[BULL]

he said hes had hellcats arrive with failed auxiliary pumps..ive also gone through two half shafts..

Half-shafts failing on lowered cars is a known issue, at least among the community.

Send @DodgeCares a PM about the issue, they have been good about helping owners work with difficult Dealerships and/or problems.

 

[Hickster]

Not the 1st time but, BULL Sh_ _ _ _. 30 degrees in Jupiter, Fl and 38 here. You are worried about your fuel pump!!! My ass is worried about staying my ass warm. Going on 6AM and fuel pump want work. I am having to drink warm wine and a bit of cheese with that. Frozen both my fuel pumps are. Hickster is a bitcher this morning. Not coming out, or the cat, for the next 2 days. Worse tomorrow. Garbage engineers are not even working. Snorts and shovels off to youz people further than Ganville, FLORIDA. FROZEN.

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

I'd invest in a go pro.

My daughter had a weird intermittent sound in her car Ford Explorer. She was worried because her warranty was ending. But she recorded it with her cell. She also found video on YouTube from people with the same issue and they also explained what resolved it. She showed them the couple videos from YouTube and from her cell phone and the dealership did fix her car.

Linda

 

[Hickster]

By looking at your picture,, you don't look old enough to have a child old enough to drive. Happy, happy husband and of course a hell of a driver. Now, if I didn't have that expensive warranty on my car car I wood,,,, bee right up younder with ya. I have a list of thangs to do,, but Del Elll Rico stole em all and did it, mods, to his Black and Blue Red Eye, beautiful car from the beach. And now he kicks my ass,, but my car wins the bee u till a ford,,, not the Explorer.

 

[Proud American]

I'd invest in a go pro.

My daughter had a weird intermittent sound in her car Ford Explorer. She was worried because her warranty was ending. But she recorded it with her cell. She also found video on YouTube from people with the same issue and they also explained what resolved it. She showed them the couple videos from YouTube and hers and she the dealership did fix her car.

Linda

Genius idea. The whole "we can't replicate the problem" has driven me bananas on a few occasions.

 

[DodgeCares]

Evening Gents,

So, this might come off as a rant but i need some advice here.. maybe some of are dealing with similar issues.

I have a 2018 hellcat charger that i bought brand new Dec 2018 from Dodge, (issue #1) from the start its had an intermittent starting issue. Basically, it would crank but fail to start on the first attempt but always start without issue on the second attempt, at the beginning this was happening maybe once every 3-4mo.. but became more frequent so I finally brought it up to a service adviser he said it sounded like the common issue with the secondary fuel pumps. They kept my car for 4 days, and of course they couldn't replicate the issue and there were no saved codes. They told me basically they need a code or for the issue to happen while the car is in their care, otherwise i have to wait for the pump to fail completely. In addition to all of this, my car has once or twice stalled out while in reverse... no clue what that's about but apparently its all liked to the secondary pump. (?)

Issue #2
in addition to the auxiliary pump issues, my starter also seems to be sticking at times..but again its intermittent and there are no saved codes...i cant get any of this to happen while its at the dealer.. they wont fuckn fix it...WHAT DO I DO? common sense answer, drop the almost 2k that i was quoted and pay out of pocket and fix it...WELL i have a huge issue with that when its still under warranty otherwise i would. My car is currently at 22k..the warranty period is just about up.. i average about 15k/year driving to shows and just in general.

ANY HELP OR SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED..

IG: Nfamous_707

Hi Nfamous_707, We sincerely regret to hear of all the trouble that has been associated with your ownership experience. Please know that our team would be more than happy to provide assistance. Please follow up with us via PM to provide more details regarding your concerns!
Rob
DodgeCares

 

[hellno]

Put a volt meter on it after it sits overnight if it checks below 12.4 the battery is weak , also start it with the volt meter and check to see how far the voltage drops that will also show how weak the battery is and how much starter is drawing, if you can find a friend with hptuner have him check the fuel pressure reading key in engine off then with it running then turn it off and see how far the pressure drops

 

[hellno]

Dodge cares and so do I 😂

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

Dodge cares and so do I 😂

That's cuz you're a beautiful human being

 

[Tonyacat]

Evening Gents,

So, this might come off as a rant but i need some advice here.. maybe some of are dealing with similar issues.

I have a 2018 hellcat charger that i bought brand new Dec 2018 from Dodge, (issue #1) from the start its had an intermittent starting issue. Basically, it would crank but fail to start on the first attempt but always start without issue on the second attempt, at the beginning this was happening maybe once every 3-4mo.. but became more frequent so I finally brought it up to a service adviser he said it sounded like the common issue with the secondary fuel pumps. They kept my car for 4 days, and of course they couldn't replicate the issue and there were no saved codes. They told me basically they need a code or for the issue to happen while the car is in their care, otherwise i have to wait for the pump to fail completely. In addition to all of this, my car has once or twice stalled out while in reverse... no clue what that's about but apparently its all liked to the secondary pump. (?)

Issue #2
in addition to the auxiliary pump issues, my starter also seems to be sticking at times..but again its intermittent and there are no saved codes...i cant get any of this to happen while its at the dealer.. they wont fuckn fix it...WHAT DO I DO? common sense answer, drop the almost 2k that i was quoted and pay out of pocket and fix it...WELL i have a huge issue with that when its still under warranty otherwise i would. My car is currently at 22k..the warranty period is just about up.. i average about 15k/year driving to shows and just in general.

ANY HELP OR SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED..

IG: Nfamous_707

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That is a badass looking beast you got there