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You believe, or they believe?

That cross member isn't very sturdy. Ask me how I know. No, I didn't try lifting from it, but when our Redeye 1.0 arrived at the dealer, that cross member was crunched. Not that I saw it in person, but what the photos showed wasn't very inspiring from a strength standpoint.

So you're saying the we need to buy an automatic (if we have a stick), and vice versa, to then race ourselves? That sounds like an expensive way to prove the obvious. Okay, so the above was supposed to be in response to Motorhead's challenge in the "We love slow stick shifts" thread. No idea...

They'd be good for transporting batteries, right? Until it was time to fly back.

Apparently it's a type of venomous snake, in the Nile region.

My current girlfriend is fast enough for me. And she likes banging, gears. Ironically, her only manual car is also her slowest. Yet she claims that it's her favorite. There's obviously a correlation here, somehow, between stick shifts and enjoying slowness..

Seems to work with wimmin.

People pay for stick shift Hellcats?!? I thought you got one free when buying an automatic SXT.

Umm, you have probably never handled 16" wide, 36-inch trail tires on steel wheels, let alone 24.5s (as on tractor trailers). In comparison, the dainty tires and wheels on a Challenger are a joy to place on the tire machine and balancer.