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But that's the beauty of the otherwise generally ugly EVs, there's nothing to go wrong. Barely any moving parts at all. Of course, that they can burn your house down is a different matter - and another one a dealer can't fix.

The world is already giving up on the EVs so you better buy one while they're available.

He can change the living room furniture easier than finding a really good snowblower and skid steer.

It works great. Especially if there's snow. But you'd have to buy the skid steer, too. It's really the only thing I use it for. Come to think of it, maybe it's the skid steer? We still got some snow when I used the 'blower on a Unimog.

Hate to tell you, but it wouldn't be a barn find. It spends the winters in the carport and the summers in a shed.

I can give you choices. A 72" 3-point PTO version, a slightly narrower (I think) hydraulic one for a skid steer, or both. Not selling the one I'm (not) using. Sorry.

My '23 was wrapped when I got it.

As seen on another Challenger site: "I decided I should wash my car today because I saw a bug on it. It was 45 degrees so not too bad. I was wrong...my hand were hurting!!!" The guy saw one bug, then couldn't deal with 45 degrees. He'd have a conniption fit if he saw my 'Cat...and a thermometer.

Easier said than done. I rely on snow to get them clean.

It'd be hard to make it worse. And EricG, tell your agent to stuff it. You'll most likely be much better at doing the car show things than you have been with simple weather things...like getting us some snow here. Okay, that's partially my fault. Buying a snowblower pretty much cancelled any...

Don't forget to bring an extension cord.

It does.

Has anything untruthful ever come out of China?!? You can easily check with a voltmeter, by the way. Harbor Freight used to give those away for free.

It could be Motor Trend's Car of the Year (and maybe it will be), but I still wouldn't want one. Unless...it comes with a 6.4 and the other needed parts in a crate, and there's a $60,000 credit for returning all the EV crap.

Alright, at a 60% higher price they must be about as good as it gets.

Oops, double post. Okay, apparently not after all. So you're okay with a $5 lowest possible bidder charger??

Lithium battery and and Harbor Freight charger.... You have much bigger balls than I do. Or even more fire extinguishers.

I think the record was three months. Most of them only seem to tolerate a month or so before getting down to 12.4 volts, which is as low as I'll let a battery get. That's when sulfation starts doing its thing.

Yep, that's the quick and easy way to do it.

Cold doesn't kill batteries, but heat usually does. Just ask the poor guys living in Florida or Arizona. Either way, you can't leave a late model FCA/Stellantis vehicle (or most other ones) sitting for months without the battery being on a good maintainer or solar charger.