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As we've seen in this thread, the Stock Power thread, and multiple threads before people (and I use that term loosely) are going to talk around, deflect, defame, or run away from the subject as a whole. It stinks of cowardice and a total lack of character. But, hey - they are the one's who...

Cherry pick the conversations as it suits you - I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck. But, it speaks volumes about you when you avoid the subject after you inserted yourself. Maybe you should actually get out and do Drag Week with that street car of yours if you are going to make claims like...

So then it is agreed that a structured rule set needs to be developed and followed. Otherwise the current and all future stock record claims are utterly meaningless unless verified - other than the fun of running your car (yay go Demon secret society). My point about being a liar is the...

Sure, great whatever. That isn't the conversation we're having here (and yes, I know I initiated it), if you want to take that tangent go start a new thread and stop polluting this thread. We are talking about what makes the stock record the stock record.

I am not setting or suggesting any restrictions here, I am simply asking what the formal rules are. I mean we do exist in a rules-based society and without rules we'd tumble in chaos, right? So this is about fairness and disclosure in what makes stock "stock". What is the definition? Moving...

This thread was never directed at the owner who just wants a taste or a tickle; it was about the guy who throws copious amounts of money at a single concept (the PD blower) which is rife with compromises - compromises which have be very clearly identified - just to come up short or broken...

2019? ;) <3

That is a great story and a sweet ride. Congrats! Welcome to the pretty exclusive HC man-pedal club.

That is interesting about the Caddy. For those reading at home: Look closely at the Hellion turbo kit I posted, those standard twin 62mm turbos are going to provide a lot of extra air. More air than a kit from any vendor, and for greater value for money at under $8000 (how many guys are...

Seems consistent with what I posted above: https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/other-forced-induction-options.5005/post-51717 Yes, you can do that to a stock blower - but should you? I'd suggest not, and have, the reality is to stop thinking about "boost" and start thinking about mass air...

There is a lot more to tires than I think most people realize. Tread wear, compound, weight, temperature sensitivity, ability to shed/disperse water, section width, measured tread width, and the shoulder design. It all stacks up.

So its 4280lbs, eh? Meaning that as long as the car weighs 4280lbs it meets the "stock" criteria? So, what you are saying is that the car qualifies as stock even in you put the PS front seat, rear seat, door panels and glove box in the trunk? Or you can gut the front 3/4 of the car and put...

I would assume is the same "logic" applied to running pump gas or over-reving engines. You just cannot shake people from the laziness or "I know better" mentality in this hobby - because exercising restraint or using good judgment is hard. Imagine back in 2015 the first blower pullies were...

That could be a legal liability issue for FCA.

Jokerz gave a pretty good explaination for one or more possible causes, and Mr. Mod2Fame was pretty clear he was driving the car incorrectly which may have contributed. Jokerz laid it out: 10% UD, 2.7" pulley, and it may be okay on a 2.4L. Go balls out and it is a timebomb. It pretty much...

I am sure there are lots of cool folks who are straight shooters with Demons... as long as they aren't chasing irrelevant records.

I am waiting to be physically confronted and verbally accosted by a Demon owner this summer for having this position. Fragile little egos.

Very. If they are chasing the stock record there is a high probability they are misdirecting or failing to disclose something. Not to mention making excuses to justify their means.

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